The so-called paradox of freedom is the argument that freedom in the sense of absence of any constraining control must lead to very great restraint, since it makes the bully free to enslave the meek. The idea is, in a slightly different form, and with very different tendency, clearly expressed in Plato. (i.e. see notes below)
I have listed here 42 DEATHS – 42 Wild Horses that BLM employees and Contractors out of Burns, Oregon (i.e. Murderer’s Creek, Oregon) have killed –
Incompetence? – To say the least — BAD management? — What Management?
This is what most of us experienced Horsemen and Horsewoman are asking, that is, those without an agenda — those without wanting to exploit America’s Wild Horses and want to leave them be — in their Natural Environment, which also happens to be our Public Lands – which there is more than enough room . . .
As those who know Horses, myself Included, these are unacceptable numbers, this death rate percentage I mention here — and we have not begun to explore the Helicopter roundup realms in Oregon, as we are still putting together those highly self-explanatory numbers as well . . .
Here is Reality Folks – Time for BLM and their Bastard Contractors and Supporters to get out of the business of Managing America’s Icon’s — the Wild Horses!
|BAIT AND TRAP – Murderer’s Creek, Oregon 47 Wild Horses Killed —
A 15% Death Rate – Murderer’s Creek – between Oct / 2012 thru July / 2014
|1. Blindness or Eye Abnormality|
|2. Blindness or Eye Abnormality|
|3. Blindness or Eye Abnormality|
|4. Blindness or Eye Abnormality|
|5. Blindness or Eye Abnormality|
|6. Blindness or Eye Abnormality|
|7. Body Condition: Unable to Maintain or Improve|
|8. Body Condition: Unable to Maintain or Improve|
|9. Body Condition: Unable to Maintain or Improve|
|14. Defect: Serious Physical|
|15. Foaling Complications|
|16. Fracture/Brain Injury: Head Acute/Sudden|
|17. Fracture/Spinal Cord: Neck or Back Acute/Sudden|
|18. Fracture/Spinal Cord: Neck or Back Acute/Sudden|
|19. Fracture/Spinal Cord: Neck or Back Acute/Sudden|
|20.Fracture/Spinal Cord: Neck or Back Acute/Sudden|
|21. Fracture: Leg or Pelvis Acute/Sudden|
|22. Fracture: Leg or Pelvis Acute/Sudden|
|23. Fracture: Leg or Pelvis Acute/Sudden|
|24. Fracture: Leg or Pelvis Acute/Sudden|
|25.Fracture: Leg or Pelvis Acute/Sudden|
|26. Fracture: Leg or Pelvis Acute/Sudden|
|27. Fracture: Leg or Pelvis Acute/Sudden|
|28. Fracture: Leg or Pelvis Acute/Sudden|
|29. Fracture: Leg or Pelvis Acute/Sudden|
|30. Fracture: Leg or Pelvis Acute/Sudden|
|31. Fracture: Leg or Pelvis Acute/Sudden|
|32. Fracture: Leg or Pelvis Acute/Sudden|
|33. Gelding Complications: Hemorrhage|
|34. Gelding Complications: Other|
|35. Gelding Complications: Other|
|36. Injury: Soft Tissue|
|47. Undiagnosed/Unknown: Found dead on pasture|
What has been of interest to us all is the types of injuries that happen at this particular Bait and Trap Site . . . Some of these 42 horses were foals, and the Dangerous Horse they describe above, AND IN ACCORD WITH THEIR OWN PAPERWORK, WAS A FOAL CLOSE TO A LITTLE OVER 6 MONTHS OLD AS FAR AS WE CAN TELL. Dangerous, THEN SHOT?
We are discussing here a 15% Death rate, which is an ongoing situation at Murderer’s Creek. There is no apparent reasoning provided other than the trapping of Wild Horses; so one of the Supervisors says, with a Howdy-Dooty smile, teeth glowing white, smelling like Ivory soap, with a stench of lie that hangs off his every word.
Let’s keep in mind this is what BLM supporters, AWHPC, Freedom for Horses, Wild Horse Education, and even HSUS state clearly to all, that everything is okay and BLM employees are to be trusted? I know for a fact they are not, as well as many others, and if this is the type of info that BLM and their supporters are dispersing, then I am sorry, they do not know much about Wild Horses, or ethics, or truth for that matter!
TAXPAYERS HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF BLM AND THEIR SUPPORTERS! AND THAT IS A FACT! Right here and right now we are discussing a minimum of $47,000 taxpayers paid to have BLM’s unqualified contractors and BLM staff Kill America’s Icons, the Wild Horses from Murderer’s Creek, Oregon!
This is a Death-Toll of15%, and between the dates shown above. . . we are talking unacceptable situations for the Wild Horses – The question is, are they loading them up on KB’s trucks and taking to Slaughter to Canada and Mexico, then listing them as Dead? – Or are these in fact Dead Wild Horses. Both Reasons Unacceptable and Criminal!
Reality and Conduct
We have no idea about what is the truth, because the BLM employees simply lie about everything, and has done so for decades now — to include when they moved pioneering families out of their homes along the Rogue River. . . Yes, they gave those families two weeks to leave their homes (even though 99 year leases still in effect and legal) — then two weeks later BLM crews come and bulldozed the homes over, then torched the piles of wood and splinters — BONFIRES OF HOMES. Families watched, with tears and emotion, their entire lives go up in smoke, their possessions, and their pride. BLM employees, well known at that time as mobsters.
.What we do know as facs, is that the BLM Supervisory Staff, as well as the private contactors at Murderer’s Creek and in Burns, Oregon, does indeed know personally several individuals that own Kill Buyer trucks and trailers, and the actual Kill Buyer’s personally. This also includes a couple of well-known self-proclaimed Horses Brokers, and on a personal basis –
We also know, via witnesses, that the BLM Supervisor over the Murderer’s Creek Trap and Bait Site had received a briefcase from a Known KB at that time, and via several witnesses at that location . . . there is more, but will go into that later . . .
An Unacceptable Death Rate
Advocates are extremely concerned at this 15% Death Rate at one Trap and Bait Site at Murderer’s Creek – Criminal behavior? Incompetence?
There exists simply a burden here, to Oregon Taxpayers as well . . . we add this $47,000 paid to the private contractors, and the horses killed — then add another $42,000 from 42 more missing Wild Horses, and surprise-surprise, out of Murderer’s Creek, Oregon, that in accord with paperwork never made it to the Burns corrals after capture. But you dam well better believe those private contractors got paid for their capture, and had something to do with the disappearance of them all as well. A KB’s truck and trailer will often take ten, some larger trailers will take twenty wild horses at a time. This is theft, Grand Larceny, and Fraud in accord with Federal Law — take your pick . . .
How long are we going to tolerate this government agency, this abomination of people that abuse, even kill our American Icon’s on a continuous basis? Not only that, but in this tragedy we are also looking at $89,000 paid to the contractors and by BLM employees, for their criminal behavior. As a taxpayer, I feel this is not only wrong, but the criminal behavior should be approached, and arrests made, and BLM employees fired. After all, enough is enough, and we simply perused a small amount of BLM paperwork and inventory to obtain this information.
Actually, it is not just my opinion here in Oregon about what to do with this situation. It is a broad and well diversified people in Oregon, and we want honesty in government, not criminals. And we all want our tax money used for Good, wholesome things, and not pay for criminal behavior or to kill Wild Horses that we all so much enjoy watching on our Public Lands.
By the Way, copies of this as well as much more information is currently making its way to the Justice Department — But myself and others wanted the taxpaying public, the owners of this country, to know what one of our government agencies is up to, and has been for quite some time now . . . Decades now, as a matter of fact.
NOTES: Less well known is the paradox of tolerance: Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them. — In this formulation, I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion, suppression would certainly be unwise. But we should claim the right to suppress them if necessary even by force; for it may easily turn out that they are not prepared to meet us on the level of rational argument, but begin by denouncing all argument; they may forbid their followers to listen to rational argument, because it is deceptive, and teach them to answer arguments by the use of their fists or pistols. We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant. We should claim that any movement preaching intolerance places itself outside the law, and we should consider incitement to intolerance and persecution as criminal, in the same way as we should consider incitement to murder, or to kidnapping, or to the revival of the slave trade, as criminal.”
― Karl Popper, The Open Society and Its Enemies
August 12, 2015 at 4:37 am
Who is responsible???
Murderer’s Creek contractor – “Horse Trappers, LLC” Picnic Creek Lane, Mount Vernon, Oregon, Delbert L Osbourn, partner.
BLM Murderer’s Creek BLM COR (BLM’s contractor officer’s representative) – BLM person responsible: Rob Sharp Burns District BLM.
BLM Project Inspector (PI) Justin Rodgers
USFS Project Inspector Kelly Ware, Malheur National Forest
Jeff Shinn Project Inspector Malheur National Forest
Nick Steiner Project Inspector, Malheur National Forest
Sara Daugherty, Project Inspector, Malheur National Forest
August 12, 2015 at 12:18 pm
This report needs to go viral and to D.C.
August 12, 2015 at 12:27 pm
We have been taking Legal actions in the wrong venue and using the wrong approach. This should be a Class Action Lawsuit with the overburdened American Taxpayers as the Class and some individuals as the Plaintiffs. The Department of the Interior, as a whole, is the worst ‘Department’ the United States has in the Government. It is not just the BLM Wild Horses and Burros, but the Forest Service, the Parks Service (they have President Roosevelt’s Nokota Horses!) and all the sub-Departments kill everything with impunity. I do not have the funds to do this, however, I have been watching this go on for over 20 years and waiting for someone to sue the Department of the Interior’s BLM in a Court that has a Precedent that can be used to win this.
There is one and the argument was advanced by one individual who had been emotionally and materially harmed by some wild animals being held in horrible conditions. The Animal Welfare Act badly needs updating so that is minimal support yet the Precedent is in the 2nd Circuit Court of the United States and that is where we should be. The last time we were there we failed as the Plaintiffs did not use the Precedent and that was a tragedy. The Attorneys apparently did not do their research in the Venue for if they had they would have prevailed.
A Department can be sued by anyone with ‘Standing’ (we have that) and it can be sued from anywhere, not just Nevada or where there are Wild Horses, Burros, Wolves, or any other Endangered Species. These Wild Horses and Burros, as well as the Wolves, should be on the National Endangered Species List. The Fish and Wildlife Service controls this list. Of all the sub Services the Fish and Wildlife Service is the absolute worst. This can be done!
August 12, 2015 at 4:40 pm
I’m guessing that the description “foaling complication” was used for the unlucky mare that died during foaling because no one either was paying attention or just didn’t give a dam (video shown a few weeks ago from one of the corrals). I hope GG’s video (above) and the information on the people who should have been taking care of these horses does a little to show the blame. Unfortunately, the blame also goes to the “top” of the company chain! So if bait trapping – the supposed less stressful way – is no better than the roundups – whats the point? The 3 babies shown in that corral (because that’s what they were – probably not even yearlings) where were the mares & remainder of their herd? You know what? I cant claim to be materially harmed by what is happening to OUR wild horses & burros, but I know that I and any other person in this country who cares about these animals certainly is emotionally harmed. How sad is it that these horses who have survived in the wild sometimes with many of these “disabilities” all their lives – blind or lame etc – are automatically killed after they are captured – at the same time as the others who have been destroyed by the BLM’s own people – just for being captured.
August 13, 2015 at 10:10 am
Indeed, you can claim you are ‘Materially Harmed’ because you pay taxes and your tax dollars are funding this incredible abuse and you have NO say in how your Money is being spent. It really truly is that cut and dry because we have 3 prongs to satisfy when arguing Court cases regarding any type of Animal. Animals occupy the same Ethical sphere as do children, it is the duty of Society to care for them Money is the most important prong here because these Agencies all burn Millions of Dollars. We can prove that just like we can prove incompetence or direct cruelty against the Wild Horses and Burros.
August 13, 2015 at 3:37 pm
Come to think of it – you are absolutely right! I tend to dwell on the inhumanity that’s being done to these (and other) animals. But yes, we all are materially harmed – by our dollars being used to fund this kind of crap. Thanks for setting me straight..
August 14, 2015 at 11:32 pm
The most frustrating thing about this is that no Attorney representing Animal Protection Groups ever thinks of a Class Action Lawsuit! The ‘Class’ is the American Taxpayer who is being screwed out of millions of dollars annually! We can show emotional harm, material harm, and cruelty to animals. There is a very weak Statute from the 1960’s called ‘The Animal Welfare Act’ but it has no teeth. We would use that to prove that Congress intended to protect animals from abuse.
There are Senators such as Senator Cory Booker who would sign on as would Representative Raul Grivulia (sic) because these men are animal lovers.
We just need the cash to do this and we need to Litigate this in the 2nd Circuit Court which is in New York State. Since we are suing the Government (we definitely have the standing to do this) we can Sue them from any Court, not just the Courts in the West. I would love to get going on this…
August 15, 2015 at 3:48 pm
Makes you wonder if this isn’t a possibility that might work! (NY Court? – maybe would get a different response from the judges that seem to be listening to the BLM). I’m sure that would get the backs up in the cattle/mining/drilling groups! That’s also something that many of us who don’t have infinite financial resources would be glad to send a few dollars to.
August 16, 2015 at 3:48 pm
That is where the Precedent is that was not even thought of that last time they Sued from the 2nd Circuit Court. We have Standing to Sue and a plan but no dollars to do this. I pay Board for 6 Rescue Horses (and that does not include my personal Horse) so I am horse rich but dollar poor. This can be done!!!